Both mom's claim that the voice heard screaming on the 911 tape to be their son's
"Who do you recognize that to be?" de la Rionda said.
"Trayvon Benjamin Martin," Fulton said.
Gladys Zimmerman listened to the 911 call and defense attorney Mark O'Mara questioned her about the voice in the background.
"That's my son, George," she said.
O'Mara then asked how she knew whose voice it was on the call.
"Because he's my son," she replied.
will Rachel Jantel be called back to the witness stand?
The Tale of Two Mom's
a few coments from the Orlando:
GOOD PHOTOS AND INFO HERE:
The Trayvon Martin Case, Update 9: Of Tea and Skittles and Blunts
(4) If Martin intended to run home, it would
have been easy. All he needed to do was run straight down the
sidewalk. On the other hand, if he intended to hide, there are a
bewildering variety of places he could have done just that.
(4) Again, the straight sidewalk to the
condo where Martin was staying, near the end of the sidewalk on the left
(east) in the photo. A fit teenager could easily have covered that
distance at a run in less than 30 seconds.
(5) The large number of convenient
places to hide, stash contraband and/or lay in wait. Losing Zimmerman
would have been easy indeed. All Martin needed to do was remain
concealed–wherever he was–and Zimmerman almost certainly would returned
to his vehicle to wait for the police
Notice the position where the scuffle ended, and also the indicator
of the location of Zimmerman’s truck. Having lost Martin minutes,
earlier, Zimmerman was apparently walking back to his truck when he was
intercepted and attacked by Martin at or near the top of the “T.”
Here is an updated version of the map I included in Update 4. PHOTO HERE
onsidering witness statements and physical evidence, Merritt
concludes that the scuffle began at the top of the “T,” but moved
slightly south:
George Zimmerman was walking back to his truck along this
path, right about the T, when Trayvon popped out from somewhere and
asked why he was following him. Within a minute, the encounter turned
physical. The first sounds heard were scuffles and “arghs.” Not screams
or cries for help. GZ was then on the ground with a broken nose. They
were off the T, on the grass at the top of the path between the shared
backyards. They continued grappling as they moved down the path to the
back of John’s house, where they rolled onto the concrete, and GZ
started crying out for help even louder, since now it was not just his
nose, but the back of his head getting smacked. Trayvon was still on top
of him.
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Saw REPEATEDLY the photo of mother of TM omostly with that hooded baby faced one of TM
It wasnt till DRUDGE put it up that I ever saw a photo of Gladys Z
and NO photo of GZ at any age
Still I cant understand WHY the Z family are barred from the courtroom
while the TM relatives who hardly knew him are there daily playing bereaved
while counting the cash from the many offers of books and movies
no sheeet his mother testified it
was him, wtf the bs racist news said it was not him for a year and a
half now they want to pay 2 sec notice to Mrs. Z? After worshiping at
the alter of racism I think not... I'll pass Mr. Sharpton
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Two Points:
1. Why would someone be calling for help when he only had bruises and scrapes on his fists.
2.
George Zimmerman's mother's last name is Zimmerman, Trayvon's mother
has a different last name. Maybe that says something for family
values..
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Once you go black, you become a single mom.
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Why in the h would the man with the forty caliber be yell ing help. No common sense here.
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it's called being racially attacked
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"racially attacked" Sad, really sad. Do you realize just how pathetically moronic that sounds? Probably not.
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Can someone please explain why so
many people are happy that if Zimmerman is acquitted his life is ruined
anyways. I was not happy with the OJ verdict but after he was let off I
didn't wish him harm or a bad life. I thought the point of our justice
system is also to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt. If
Zimmerman is let off and a lot of you are hoping for harm to come to him
after that then you are not Americans. The point of our justice system
is to be tried by your peers and if you are convicted then so be it and
you can appeal. If you are acquitted then that should be the end of it.
So many people wishing for harm to him if he gets let go really shows
that sad state our country is in. If he is tried by his peers and
released then that should be the end of it and those wishing for harm to
him should find another country to go live in.
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I don't think you can ever undo
the bias against persons accused of committing violent crimes. If you
wished OJ no ill will after his acquittal, you were probably in the
minority.
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Don't get me wrong I was happy
when OJ got his conviction and put in prison and got what he had coming
to him. Up until that point though I felt it was just another failure by
our justice system so why should I be angry, or wish ill will towards
someone who was just doing what anyone else would do in that situation.
He was able to beat our justice system. As sad as that is, I and every
other American had to live with it. But for me to be so petty and small
to hope something would happen to him would make me no better then him. I
guess its just a sad fact that our country is more racist now then 20
or 30 years ago and is headed in to the toilet. Our justice system is
turning into Mexico's where people want your convicted first and have to
prove your innocence second.
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Know what I thought at the end of
the OJ trial? That his lawyers were brilliant. I could see how the
families of the deceased would be aggrieved at the verdict, but why
should I be?
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The vast majority of people
wanting harm to come to him are black. They think convicting George will
make their sad pathetic lives better. Did electing obama make your
lives better black folk?
Blacks should learn to stop being the victim, and thank God they were born in America and not Africa.
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A poorly managed trial, with much
"testimony" being irrelevant to the case, allowed. Ridiculous,
predictable and time consuming . What has happened to the courts?
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What I find telling is that
Trayvon's mother testified to her son's voice. She has not had custody
of him since he was 3. He previously lived with his Dad and STEPMOTHER
and more recently his Uncle.
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That's hardly "telling" re Ms. Fuller's ability to recognize her son's voice, but you saying something so silly is telling.
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Why isn't the woman who RAISED
him testifying? She hadn't lived near him in years. You should look a
bit further into the history of Mom and Dad. Quite a sad life for
Trayvon.
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She only claimed him after she knew she won the negro lottery after his death.
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So, from here on out, let's operate on this premise:
Neighborhood watchmen are commissioned with the task of identifying
suspicious individuals. Furthermore, neighborhood watchmen are to
contact the police non-emergency line to notify the police of potential
suspicious activity. The neighborhood watchmen are to remain in contact
with the non-emergency line until it is established that police are on
the way and the location of the suspicious individual(s) has been
reported. If the individual is mobile, the neighborhood watchman is to
do their best to keep the suspicious individuals in sight. It is NOT
the watchman's job to approach or attempt to detain suspicious
individuals. If the suspicious individual(s) approaches the watchman,
they must attempt to identify themselves.
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Better premise: let everyone do
whatever the heck they want, as long as it doesn't break the law or
infringe on the rights of others. If someone wants to follow a person,
it's OK. If a person doesn't like being followed, too f-ing bad.
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Actually, neighborhood watch people are supposed to report suspicious activity or crimes in progress.
A person should not be deemed "suspicious" unless they're actually doing something.
GZ once reported as suspicious a resident who was standing outside his own home smoking a cigarette. Were you aware?
As for "commissioned" - neighborhood watch is not an appointment.
It's voluntary. And the RTL neighborhood watch was not registered,
consisted of a handful of volunteers, of which GZ was one but not any
kind of "leader" or "captain". What he did was all him, and his
methods, which were not approved methods (either under proper
Neighborhood Watch rules or by the police). The other NW people at RTL
did not go out on armed patrols because the little training they had
told them they should not do that. At least one of the others had a
concealed carry permit but said just because he had it didn't mean he
carried 24/7.
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better yet: let anyone think anyone is suspicious for whatever reason(s) they want.
WTF is wrong with y'all - trying to micromanage everyone's thoughts and lives.
You're acting like liberals - ugh.
Liberals think that because a few people don't manage their finances
well enough to pay for healthcare in their old ages, that everyone's
finances must be managed for them.
Liberals think that because a few people made poor life choices and
can't find a job, everyone else should be made to support them.
Liberals think that because a few people are too stupid to use contraceptives properly, everyone must pay for their abortions.
Liberals think that because a few people have poor dietary habits, everyone's diets should be managed for them.
Liberals think that because a few people use firearms to commit crimes, everyone must submit to abusive gun control laws.
The list goes on and on. I'm tied of losing my freedoms because a
few people act stupid. Let them loose their freedoms for their
stupidity and leave me alone.
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We are so paranoid and suspicious
of each other we actually allow the government to spy on us. That is a
sad indictment of our nation's consciousness. Even sadder, a very
lucrative conspiracy theory culture has sprung up to encourage paranoia
and fear to flourish.
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"...a very lucrative conspiracy theory culture has sprung up to encourage paranoia and fear to flourish."
this lucrative conspiracy theory culture.." has been verrry carefully cultivated
it did NOT spring up
once you grasp THAT ancient conspiracy all the rest just plops into place for you.
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But, it seems there is some truth to some of those theories.
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Well, ya know I think Elvis is
still alive, an alien space craft crashed near Roswell and the world is
going to end in 2042. But otherwise, I am dismissive.
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He clearly stated that TM was acting suspicious... standing in someone's yard in the rain is not normal...
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It was proven by autopsy TM had drugs in his system
skittles and WATERMELON ARIZONA TEA are mixed with cough medicine to make a high potency get high
" DRANK" popular in the rap culture
it causes extreme brain imbalances and lasts for hours
"...whereIt’s called lean, sizzurp, or purple drank. In hip hop
music, it’s the subject of countless songs. Rapper Lil’ Wayne has been
known to enjoy it. ...Local pharmacists believe those cough syrups
may be why their businesses were recently burglarized. ...
...“You can’t see because your vision is so blurry, you can’t sweat, you
can’t control your body temperature,” she warned.
“You get hallucinations with this, which you wouldn’t normally get
with just alcohol.” ..//fox4kc .com/2013/04/23/what-is-purple-drank/
TM was hiding in the bushes to jump out on GZ there was found a common burglar tool called a "slim jim"
who put it there and when and WHY?
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Is it normal if you get caught in the rain to seek shelter? Is it normal to not walk fast if you are talking on the phone?
GZ and TM saw each other with clouded eyes that night - that cloud of
fear and suspicion. And now one of them is dead and the other's life
is ruined. Everybody loses.
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Traycoon was seen peeping into windows looking to rob or rape someone.
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Just a few of Zimmerman's 911 calls:
Jan. 29, 2012 – 5:38 p.m. "Children “running and playing in the street”
Dec. 10, 2011 – 5:29 p.m. “Male subject [arrived on scene] that
thought he was employed by” Zimmerman … “Subj is expected to get paid
for serving food.” … Zimmerman“said that he didn’t wish him to serve at
the [event]” … Zimmerman “hired someone else, subj sounded upset and
wants to get paid”
Oct. 1, 2011 – 12:53 a.m. Two black male suspects “20–30 YOA in
[white] Chevy poss Impala at the gate of the community.” Zimmerman “does
not recognize subjs or veh and is concerned due to recent” burglaries
in the area.
Sept. 23, 2011 – 11:08 p.m. Zimmerman reports “open garage door” … Describes “neighborhood watch mtg
last night with Sgt Herx who [advised] to report anything [suspicious]"
Aug. 6, 2011 – 10:20 p.m. Two black males, one wearing a black tank
top and black shorts, the second wearing a black t-shirt and jeans …
“Subjs are in their teens”
April 22, 2011 – 7:09 p.m. Juvenile black male “apprx 7–9” years
old, four feet tall “skinny build, short blk hair” last seen wearing a
blue t-shirt and blue shorts
March 18, 2011 – 9:26 p.m. Zimmerman requested an officer meet him regarding a pit bull in his garage
Nov. 8, 2010 – 6:54 p.m. Zimmerman reports “trash in roadwy”
Oct. 2, 2010 – 1:55 p.m. Zimmerman reports “blu jeep grand Cherokee female driver yelling at elderly passengers
June 26, 2010 – 11:00 p.m. “Loud party … approx 50 subjs"
June 12, 2010 – 11:13 p.m. Subject “at the clubhouse & pool areas having a party”
April 28, 2010 – 9:02 p.m. “White older model four-door Buick or Oldsmobile” obstructing road
Feb. 27, 2010 – 4:46 p.m. “Residence w/a lot of [suspicious] activity” … “multiple vehs are constantly coming to the location"
Jan. 12, 2010 – 10:25 p.m. Open garage door
Jan. 1, 2010 – 4:34 a.m. (you'd think he'd be in bed...?) "Reckless driver in “purplish Ford Ranger single cab”
Nov. 3, 2009 – 5:04 p.m. "White Ford that was cutting people off"
Oct. 23, 2009 – 9:18 a.m. Aggressive brown and white dog sitting outside of yard
Sept. 22, 2009 – 6:00 p.m. Minor on yellow bike doing wheelies
Aug. 26, 2009 - 8:35 p.m. Gold Caprice speeding
Aug. 21, 2009 – 6:57 p.m. “Landlord is trying to take [Zimmerman’s] money for rent and home in foreclosure”
June 16, 2009 – 3:50 p.m. Persons in the pool area playing
basketball, “jumpin over the fence going into pool area and trashin the
bathroom”
May 4, 2009 – 4:07 p.m. Reports a blue Audi A4
Nov. 25, 2007 – 12:40 a.m. “Ex roommate is letting people that [Zimmerman] don’t like in the” house
Zimmerman had been making one call a month on average to the
emergency services to complain about everything and everbody going back
to at least April 2004 (because the logs have been pulled up).
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what's this got to do with anything?
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